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【问题】以长度为11,12,13,14,15,16的六条线段为棱,能够搭建多少个不同的四面体?
(镜像对称而不能旋转重合的两个四面体亦视为不同)。
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发表于 2017-5-5 16:01:02 | 显示全部楼层
镜像对称的(也就是一个顶点不变,余下三个改变方向的)先看成一样,那么显然总数为${6!}/{4!}=30$种
如果考虑镜像对称的看成不同,每个就可以有两个不同的取向,所以应该$60$种。
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 楼主| 发表于 2017-5-5 17:01:10 | 显示全部楼层

四面体的棱长组合计数1

@mathe 边长置换数 / 顶点置换数,妙!

有一个同学是这么计数的:边长置换数为6!,一个三棱锥有3个旋转,所以一个四面体有12个旋转,故除去旋转相同的共是6!/12=60种。

两者一样很巧妙啊。
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 楼主| 发表于 2017-5-5 17:10:35 | 显示全部楼层

四面体的棱长组合计数2

一个同学用的分类统计法:

11,12,13三条边的位置关系可分为以下3种:
一、构成三角形,这类共有2*3!=12种
二、构成Y字形,这是三角形的对偶形,所以也是2*3!=12种
三、构成Z字形,共有2*3*3!=36种
所以总共是12+12+36=60种。
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 楼主| 发表于 2017-5-5 17:18:40 | 显示全部楼层

四面体的棱长组合计数3

另一个同学的分类统计法:

考虑11边的对边,共有5种选择,剩下的四条边构成一个回路,圆排列数=3!共有5*3!=30种。
再将11与对边互换位置,也有30种。
总计60种。
感觉这个分类比上面的简明。但是好像有问题,跟圆排列有什么关系呢?
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发表于 2023-3-1 13:59:48 | 显示全部楼层
6!=720
怎么判断两种排列具有等价的空间结构呢,看它们的体积!
按凯莱行列式计算体积,发现每24个排列共一个体积值,共有30个不同的体积:\[
\left\{21 \sqrt{159},\frac{39 \sqrt{699}}{4},\frac{7 \sqrt{10031}}{3},\frac{5 \sqrt{20135}}{3},\frac{5 \sqrt{23999}}{3},\frac{17 \sqrt{27011}}{12},\frac{13 \sqrt{56459}}{12},\sqrt{73079},\frac{3 \sqrt{111471}}{4},\frac{3 \sqrt{114351}}{4},\frac{5 \sqrt{314135}}{12},\frac{5 \sqrt{385199}}{12},\frac{5 \sqrt{393839}}{12},\frac{5 \sqrt{403079}}{12},\frac{\sqrt{614759}}{3},\frac{\sqrt{1136459}}{4},\frac{\sqrt{7930751}}{12},\frac{\sqrt{8073251}}{12},\frac{\sqrt{9043319}}{12},\frac{\sqrt{9156551}}{12},\frac{\sqrt{9199319}}{12},\frac{\sqrt{9233831}}{12},\frac{\sqrt{9690071}}{12},\frac{\sqrt{9844511}}{12},\frac{\sqrt{9934019}}{12},\frac{\sqrt{10057031}}{12},\frac{\sqrt{10100471}}{12},\frac{\sqrt{10314911}}{12},\frac{\sqrt{10391471}}{12},\frac{\sqrt{10450151}}{12}\right\}
\]考虑镜像对称,因此有30*2=60种不同的四面体。
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发表于 2023-3-1 14:25:32 | 显示全部楼层
我已经用穷举法计算过了,对于a b c d e f六条棱,
计算出720种排列,然后计算出所有的排列对应的体积,
然后体积值进行合并,总共得到30种不同的体积!
每种体积都对应24种置换情况
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发表于 2023-3-4 14:29:15 | 显示全部楼层
【问题】以长度为11,12,13,14,15,16的六条线段为棱,能够搭建多少个不同的四面体?
(镜像对称而不能旋转重合的两个四面体亦视为不同)。

把四面体看作一个平放在桌面上的三角形ABC(P是内部一点),

BC=a,CA=b,AB=c,PA=A,PB=B,PC=C

我们总可以让 11=a。

12有3种可能:

12=b,可以有24种变化。

12=c,可以有24种变化。

12=A,可以有24种变化,其中有12种=另外12种。

合计能够搭建24+24+24/2=60个不同的四面体。
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发表于 2023-3-5 08:08:01 | 显示全部楼层
【问题】以长度为11,12,13,14,15,16的六条线段为棱,能够搭建多少个不同的四面体?
(镜像对称而不能旋转重合的两个四面体亦视为不同)。

把四面体看作一个平放在桌面上的三角形ABC(P是内部一点),

BC=a,CA=b,AB=c,PA=A,PB=B,PC=C

我们总可以让 11=a。

12有3种可能。

第1种可能: 12=b,可以有24种变化。
1: a,b,c,A,B,C=11,12,13,14,15,16,  
2: a,b,c,A,B,C=11,12,13,14,16,15,
3: a,b,c,A,B,C=11,12,13,15,14,16,
4: a,b,c,A,B,C=11,12,13,15,16,14,
5: a,b,c,A,B,C=11,12,13,16,14,15,
6: a,b,c,A,B,C=11,12,13,16,15,14,
1: a,b,c,A,B,C=11,12,14,13,15,16,  
2: a,b,c,A,B,C=11,12,14,13,16,15,
3: a,b,c,A,B,C=11,12,14,15,13,16,
4: a,b,c,A,B,C=11,12,14,15,16,13,
5: a,b,c,A,B,C=11,12,14,16,13,15,
6: a,b,c,A,B,C=11,12,14,16,15,13,
1: a,b,c,A,B,C=11,12,15,13,14,16,  
2: a,b,c,A,B,C=11,12,15,13,16,14,
3: a,b,c,A,B,C=11,12,15,14,13,16,
4: a,b,c,A,B,C=11,12,15,14,16,13,
5: a,b,c,A,B,C=11,12,15,16,13,14,
6: a,b,c,A,B,C=11,12,15,16,14,13,
1: a,b,c,A,B,C=11,12,16,13,14,15,  
2: a,b,c,A,B,C=11,12,16,13,15,14,
3: a,b,c,A,B,C=11,12,16,14,13,15,
4: a,b,c,A,B,C=11,12,16,14,15,13,
5: a,b,c,A,B,C=11,12,16,15,13,14,
6: a,b,c,A,B,C=11,12,16,15,14,13,

第2种可能: 12=c,可以有24种变化。
1: a,b,c,A,B,C=11,13,12,14,15,16,  
2: a,b,c,A,B,C=11,13,12,14,16,15,
3: a,b,c,A,B,C=11,13,12,15,14,16,
4: a,b,c,A,B,C=11,13,12,15,16,14,
5: a,b,c,A,B,C=11,13,12,16,14,15,
6: a,b,c,A,B,C=11,13,12,16,15,14,
1: a,b,c,A,B,C=11,14,12,13,15,16,  
2: a,b,c,A,B,C=11,14,12,13,16,15,
3: a,b,c,A,B,C=11,14,12,15,13,16,
4: a,b,c,A,B,C=11,14,12,15,16,13,
5: a,b,c,A,B,C=11,14,12,16,13,15,
6: a,b,c,A,B,C=11,14,12,16,15,13,
1: a,b,c,A,B,C=11,15,12,13,14,16,  
2: a,b,c,A,B,C=11,15,12,13,16,14,
3: a,b,c,A,B,C=11,15,12,14,13,16,
4: a,b,c,A,B,C=11,15,12,14,16,13,
5: a,b,c,A,B,C=11,15,12,16,13,14,
6: a,b,c,A,B,C=11,15,12,16,14,13,
1: a,b,c,A,B,C=11,16,12,13,14,15,  
2: a,b,c,A,B,C=11,16,12,13,15,14,
3: a,b,c,A,B,C=11,16,12,14,13,15,
4: a,b,c,A,B,C=11,16,12,14,15,13,
5: a,b,c,A,B,C=11,16,12,15,13,14,
6: a,b,c,A,B,C=11,16,12,15,14,13,

第3种可能: 12=A,可以有24种变化,其中有12种=另外12种。
1: a,b,c,A,B,C=11,13,14,12,15,16,  
2: a,b,c,A,B,C=11,13,14,12,16,15,
3: a,b,c,A,B,C=11,13,15,12,14,16,
4: a,b,c,A,B,C=11,13,15,12,16,14,
5: a,b,c,A,B,C=11,13,16,12,14,15,
6: a,b,c,A,B,C=11,13,16,12,15,14,
1: a,b,c,A,B,C=11,14,13,12,15,16,  
2: a,b,c,A,B,C=11,14,13,12,16,15,
3: a,b,c,A,B,C=11,14,15,12,13,16,
4: a,b,c,A,B,C=11,14,15,12,16,13,
5: a,b,c,A,B,C=11,14,16,12,13,15,
6: a,b,c,A,B,C=11,14,16,12,15,13,

合计能够搭建24+24+24/2=60个不同的四面体。
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发表于 2023-3-7 10:23:11 | 显示全部楼层
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这个是我的计算,最后一个元素对应的是体积!

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