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[转载] 抖音上一道有趣又很难的几何题

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发表于 2020-9-19 13:24:47 | 显示全部楼层
另外如果P3三格黄色映射到P1三个蓝色,但是P1两格黄色的像会分别来自P2和P3 (横向),那么P2两个黄色的像也只能分别来自P2和P3(而且必须相邻),所以得出P1和P2的黄色格子只能构成正方形,同样P3和P2的蓝色格子也构成正方形,经试验,满足这些条件的图没有一个合法。
另外黄色格子构成5*1图案就两种,这时还会要求蓝色图案也出现5*1或1*5,穷举可以得到没有合法解。
而黄色构成4*1的图案会包含黄色L字形,于是要求对应的蓝色也有L字形,同样穷举没有合法解。
所以应该只有两个答案
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 楼主| 发表于 2020-9-19 16:27:11 | 显示全部楼层
抖音上转直角的解确实是你解出来的两个,抖音上还有两种不是转直角的解,而且这里加了图案对称也算形状一样,可能解更多
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毋私小惠而伤大体  毋借公论以快私情
发表于 2020-9-19 16:47:23 来自手机 | 显示全部楼层
如果允许图像部分自相交,的确还有,当然你这里规则没有说清楚。但是通常理解意义下,我们应该会不允许自相加交的。至于旋转角度不是直角倍数,显然不符合题意,即使中心坐标重叠也毫无意义。至于翻转,已经计算在内了。

点评

那就是你的描述是不对的,结果自然会不同。  发表于 2020-9-19 21:25
最开始就没有说转直角,画一个带方格的解一是为了好理解题意  发表于 2020-9-19 19:29
修正了定义那么就需要重新描述清楚,不然是无法交流的  发表于 2020-9-19 17:39
自相交不容许,转其他有理数角度确实还有解  发表于 2020-9-19 17:20
可以旋转任意角。  发表于 2020-9-19 16:54
毋因群疑而阻独见  毋任己意而废人言
毋私小惠而伤大体  毋借公论以快私情
发表于 2020-9-19 21:59:19 | 显示全部楼层
b2.png
为了方便描述各类格子,我们把P1中蓝色格子称为B1,黄色格子称为Y1. 同样如上图有B2,Y2,B3,Y3.
如果一个合法解对应的变换f将Y3变换为B1,Y1变换为B2, Y2变换为B3,那么我们称呼这种解为理想解。
而如果一个合法解对应的变换f将Y3变换为B1,但是Y1变换的结果不是B2或Y2变换结果不是B3,那么我们称呼这种解为准理想解。
而如果一个合法解对应的变换f将Y3变换的结果不是B1,那么,我们称呼这种解为异常解。
其中理想解是最容易解答的,也很容易计算。准理想解也相对容易分析,但是异常解分析会很复杂。但是从前面分析结果来看,很可能只有理想解。
楼主对于题目的描述有点不清楚,我们只能大概猜测一下题目中可能的扩展方向。
根据原题,我们会认为P1,P2,P3都只有水平和垂直两种方向放置方向,但是一种比较可能的扩展方案是我们可以不限制P1,P2,P3的放置方向,也就是它们都可以倾斜放置,那么应该就会容易有更多的解了。
其中P3我们还是可以认为5个格子的方向还是保持Y3在(0,-2),(0,-1),(0,0), 而B3在(0,1),(0,2),设\(H=\begin{pmatrix}0, 1\\-1,0\end{pmatrix}\)代表逆时针旋转90度
可以假设变换f为 f(v)=Rv+a,其中R是一个二阶正交阵,a是一个二维向量。R可以是逆时针旋转t的角度的矩阵,也可以是选择加镜像的结果.
所以$R R'=I$, 其中\(R\begin{pmatrix}0\\ 1\end{pmatrix}\)代表B1的方向,于是\(HR\begin{pmatrix}0\\ 1\end{pmatrix}\)代表Y1的方向
所以\(RHR\begin{pmatrix}0\\ 1\end{pmatrix}\)代表B2也就是Y2的方向,\(R^2HR\begin{pmatrix}0\\ 1\end{pmatrix}\)代表B3也就是Y3的方向。
于是我们得出\(R^2HR\begin{pmatrix}0\\ 1\end{pmatrix}=\begin{pmatrix}0\\ 1\end{pmatrix}\)或\(R^2HR\begin{pmatrix}0\\ 1\end{pmatrix}=\begin{pmatrix}0\\ -1\end{pmatrix}\)
由于\(R^2HR\)是正交阵,根据几何意义,我们可以得出它只能是\(\begin{pmatrix}1,0\\ 0,1\end{pmatrix},\begin{pmatrix}-1,0\\ 0,1\end{pmatrix},\begin{pmatrix}1,0\\0, -1\end{pmatrix},\begin{pmatrix}-1,0\\ 0,-1\end{pmatrix}\)四者之一。

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发表于 2020-9-20 07:23:23 | 显示全部楼层
上面矩阵R可以分成两类,镜像对称或旋转变换。当R为镜像对称时,$R^2=I$,于是方程转化为$HR$为四者之一,于是只能\(R=\begin{pmatrix}0,1\\1,0\end{pmatrix}\)或\(R=\begin{pmatrix}0,-1\\-1,0\end{pmatrix}\),对应的变换还是将水平方向变化为垂直方向,并不会增加特别的解。
所以后面只需要讨论旋转变换即可
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毋私小惠而伤大体  毋借公论以快私情
发表于 2020-9-20 07:34:36 来自手机 | 显示全部楼层
如果R代表旋转t度,那么等式表示旋转3t加90度后为180度倍数,于是除了正负90度还可以有正负30度和正负150度,后面就只余下在对应旋转角度下计算平移量的问题了,难度不大,但是有点繁琐
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毋私小惠而伤大体  毋借公论以快私情
发表于 2020-9-20 14:27:36 | 显示全部楼层
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p1.png
B1和D3重叠,淘汰


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A1和C3重叠,淘汰



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p3.png
C1和C3重叠,淘汰


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p4.png
D2和C3重叠,淘汰


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p5.png
即9#答案


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p6.png
B2和B3重叠淘汰


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p7.png
E1和D3重叠,淘汰


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p8.png
等价1#答案


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p9.png
C1和E3重叠,淘汰


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p10.png
这是一个合法解


Found:
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p11.png p11.r.png
这个也是合法解



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B2=[-2.3660254037844386467637231707529361835, 0.36602540378443864676372317075293618347]:Blue
C2=[-0.86602540378443864676372317075293618348, -2.2320508075688772935274463415058723670]:Yellow
D2=[-1.3660254037844386467637231707529361835, -1.3660254037844386467637231707529361835]:Yellow
A3=[0, 2]:Blue
B3=[0, 1]:Blue
C3=[0, 0]:Yellow
D3=[0, -1]:Yellow
E3=[0, -2]:Yellow
p12.png
C3和D1重叠淘汰
毋因群疑而阻独见  毋任己意而废人言
毋私小惠而伤大体  毋借公论以快私情
 楼主| 发表于 2020-9-21 19:12:47 | 显示全部楼层
4个解全部让你找出来了,是不是加了对称算一样的图的条件,并没有增加解的个数
毋因群疑而阻独见  毋任己意而废人言
毋私小惠而伤大体  毋借公论以快私情
 楼主| 发表于 2020-9-21 19:25:13 | 显示全部楼层
4个
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毋因群疑而阻独见  毋任己意而废人言
毋私小惠而伤大体  毋借公论以快私情
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